lol...forgot you had a sense of humor....the dermacrine must be working!!!!:hitwithrock:You can probably spoon with BigT and a "sample size" amount will rub off on you.
Yeah, I grossed myself out with that one.
lol...forgot you had a sense of humor....the dermacrine must be working!!!!:hitwithrock:You can probably spoon with BigT and a "sample size" amount will rub off on you.
Yeah, I grossed myself out with that one.
Well, I suppose I should thank you for your creative solution, while at the same time working the clean the vomit off of my keyboard.You can probably spoon with BigT and a "sample size" amount will rub off on you.
Yeah, I grossed myself out with that one.
lol...it's all good....glad to have you participating!!!Sorry, it was just low hanging fruit for a comedic post. Back to the topic at hand...
lolthanks, bio....i feel like the target at a don rickles show, at:
indeed...i have read on many forums where even trt has not improved quality of life for a number of guys, at least this is what they have reported...Man, I'm sorry you aren't seeing the benefits the same way. At least you know you can with test alone.
this may have been true in the past, but that study showing trt increased risks of heart disease...even though proven to be faulty, brought trt to the attention of medical community and of course the good old fda!!!That I believe due to the number of clinics and doctors that are running a lab on test levels and putting guys on TRT. So many guys may not need it, but they would have no idea because the doctors aren't running full labs, evaluating client lifestyle/diet/stress/rest, and determining if there is a better alternative. Exogenous test may feel nice for a few months, but then all symptoms come back.
lol...i see them all the time. sometimes they even seem farfetched...those posts are what scares me, certain doctors over-prescribing and going outside approved dosages is where the fda will find ammo to hurt all us of legitamately trying to improve our quality of life....just like a person dying of cancer can only get so much pain medicine for fear of becoming addicted---even though that person may only have months to live.Oh, it is still going on in full force and has even become more insane what will be prescribed. All it takes a quick look at some of the posts on here.
That means high E2 for me.Anyone get overheated when using dermacrine? I get super hot at night with one pump in the morning
Tough for me to tell. I tend to always run warmer than a lot of people. I use a fan at my desk in the winter at the office. So, maybe? Could also be the androgens I'm taking. Fwiw, my E2 is always controlled.Anyone get overheated when using dermacrine? I get super hot at night with one pump in the morning
highly unlikely dermacrine would cause estrogen to go that high....do some research on 7,8-benzoflavone!!!That means high E2 for me.
if it is dermacrine causing this reaction you must be one hell of a super responder...1 pump is a low dose and that is a lot of time between dosing and bedtime. any thing else that might be causing this?Anyone get overheated when using dermacrine? I get super hot at night with one pump in the morning
I think I'm a super responder with all transdermals. My test level and e2 get really high on just one pump/application of Androgel or Testim. One tube application of Testim gel will keep me over 1000ng/dL, and I stay red as a beet. That's why I only do injections now. Four pumps of Dermacrine causes some nasty side effects with me.if it is dermacrine causing this reaction you must be one hell of a super responder...1 pump is a low dose and that is a lot of time between dosing and bedtime. any thing else that might be causing this?
wow...2 tubes of androgel a day would be a cycle for you!!!I think I'm a super responder with all transdermals. My test level and e2 get really high on just one pump/application of Androgel or Testim. One tube application of Testim gel will keep me over 1000ng/dL, and I stay red as a beet. That's why I only do injections now. Four pumps of Dermacrine causes some nasty side effects with me.
Yup, that's why I was taken off the gel and switched to injections a couple years ago.wow...2 tubes of androgel a day would be a cycle for you!!!
have you ever talked to your doc about this?
did he ever offer up an explanation for this?Yup, that's why I was taken off the gel and switched to injections a couple years ago.
Actually I've started using it twice a week on the days of my injections, and it seems to be working pretty well. I love how it wakes me up like caffeine, without the crash. The sublingual and oral DHEA/Preg never did thatdid he ever offer up an explanation for this?
as far as dermacrine...you might try 1 pump eod, or even half a pump-it's not accurate but worth a shot.
bingo....at 1st i thought it was just me, but more and more i am hearing this!!!Actually I've started using it twice a week on the days of my injections, and it seems to be working pretty well. I love how it wakes me up like caffeine, without the crash. The sublingual and oral DHEA/Preg never did that
Lex, where are you applying it?Actually I've started using it twice a week on the days of my injections, and it seems to be working pretty well. I love how it wakes me up like caffeine, without the crash. The sublingual and oral DHEA/Preg never did that
Forearms, haven't tried anywhere else yetLex, where are you applying it?
lol...i get creative, i've even used it as after shave on face and neck!!!Forearms, haven't tried anywhere else yet
What testing lab is this with?My dhea came back in the low 400s so my Dr. Told me to take 25mg oral dhea which didn't change anything so after reading this I got some 25mg sublingual and it gives me an odd headache like feeling. Anyone else hAve this or have any idea what might be causing it? Also I used 50mg oral with a positive increase with no issues other then elevated e2 and I have tried 12.5mg sublingual with the same negative reaction. Thanks for any help.
It was lab corp. My Dr. Said we could bring it up to make it more optimal. I am starting to think it would be best if I just left it out as I can't tell a difference really either way other then e2 goes up.What testing lab is this with?
With labcop testing low 400s is not low and IMO would not really require supplementation.
The face works great (thin skin, so does the forehead). Applying to the neck, while a good location, tends to trash (discolor) work shirt collars.lol...i get creative, i've even used it as after shave on face and neck!!!
my shirts are blue collar, lol.The face works great (thin skin, so does the forehead). Applying to the neck, while a good location, tends to trash (discolor) work shirt collars.
I use pecs, shoulders, inner biceps and forearms. I believe forearms would be best if you want most of it to remain as DHEA though.
Enzymes in the skin on the back/shoulders/ upper torso will convert DHEA to testosterone. There's far less of this enzyme in the skin on the forearms, but forearms definitely offer highest absorption of any transdermal.
this is true, but like gutterpump said most of it will remain as dhea...applying to neck and shoulders will give more androgenic effect.One could also do the tops of their feet as well.
we are definately on the same page!!!I like to combine areas to get both effects.
DHEA is a neurohormone, which gives the feeling of being more alert in some users.
I like doing this as well!I like to combine areas to get both effects. DHEA is a neurohormone, which gives the feeling of being more alert in some users.
This is 100 percent for me. I get very clean energy with no anxietyI like to combine areas to get both effects. DHEA is a neurohormone, which gives the feeling of being more alert in some users.
yup , BPS....i can't tell any difference between og pp dermacrine and new BPS dermacrine....geez, either you had a lot of bottles or it lasts you a really, really long time, lol.Where are people getting dermacrine from these days? I'm running really low
I've still been using PP's
edit: NM, I see BPS is the new carrier. Going to try myself a bottle of the new stuff
you are in luck, transaderm is on sale for $177...you save $50!!!I like both BPS Dermacrine and RS Transaderm.
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