Transdermals- 1 Andro etc Alpha Gainz

[mikeymike85]

Hey amigos- So Ive ran 1AD a couple times years ago-- but I noticed it says "V2"-- and it doesn't look like its 1-Andro, but 1-DHEA. Is this any good?

Looking to stack with 2 month Var run. Cheers.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

1 andro is the same thing as 1 DHEA.
neither of them are 1 AD.

 

[mikeymike85]

So basically its trash Ripper? I want something to run alongside Var (Transdermal though), or something non methyl.

Predator has Alpha 1-AD (not the V2), their site says its straight 1-Androstenediol (1-AD)... thoughts?

Goal is lean up/ vascularity/ polish. Not looking to put on weight.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

1 AD would be a better choice imo. but i wouldnt call 1 andro trash. its a decent PH when dosed properly.

 

[Rad83]

Rad140 or maybe the 150 ?

 

[mikeymike85]

1 AD would be a better choice imo. but i wouldnt call 1 andro trash. its a decent PH when dosed properly.

Maybe I'll do a high dose 1 Andro, would rather not have to order from UK.

Ripper- 1 Andro does convert to 1-Test though, correct? Thx brother.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

There is no more 1-AD at all. Not even on predator. 1-Androstene-3 Beta, 17 Beta-Diol would be the nomenclature you are looking for. Everything else is trademarked dhea editions. 1-andro is still pretty good though. But yeah you can’t get 1-ad anywhere. 4-ad, yes you can still find it

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

just get over 300 mgs per day and with andros it is important to spread out dosing. If you can find some in a TD use that

 

[mikeymike85]

There is no more 1-AD at all. Not even on predator. 1-Androstene-3 Beta, 17 Beta-Diol would be the nomenclature you are looking for. Everything else is trademarked dhea editions. 1-andro is still pretty good though. But yeah you can’t get 1-ad anywhere. 4-ad, yes you can still find it

Thanks brother. I think I'm going to run 250 mg of 1-andro, either from IF or Alpha Gainz. After researching, sounds like it should be a decent compound to pair with Var.

 

[mikeymike85]

just get over 300 mgs per day and with andros it is important to spread out dosing. If you can find some in a TD use that

Yeah I'm going TD only... hoping 250mg per day will suffice

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

plenty for a TD

 

[mikeymike85]

Appreciate you Ripper

 

[Rad83]

Question for anyone familiar with the Alpha Gainz products…Some sites say their “4 andro transdermal” also includes 100mg of 1 andro, per ml…..This true?

 

[KvanH]

Question for anyone familiar with the Alpha Gainz products…Some sites say their “4 andro transdermal” also includes 100mg of 1 andro, per ml…..This true?

No. Never seen an AG product combining 1- and 4-Andro (disclaimer; maybe they've had in the past, but I've never seen one). I've used plenty of AG Andros in the past. Also, their 4-Andro contains 150 mg in 1 ml and their 1-Andro contains 125 mg in 1 ml. I'd believe that's for a reason and stuffing 250 mg of these Andros in 1 ml would not be good for the composition of the product.

 

[delsolrob]

Hey amigos- So Ive ran 1AD a couple times years ago-- but I noticed it says "V2"-- and it doesn't look like its 1-Andro, but 1-DHEA. Is this any good?

Looking to stack with 2 month Var run. Cheers.

V1 was 75mg/ml of 1-DHEA V2 is 125mg/ml of 1-DHEA - V2 did have issues with crashing - particularly in these colder times. if you find crystals in your bottle you can use the steps at this link to fix it

What To Do If Your Bottle Has Crystals In It

Sometimes, especially during colder months, you may receive a topical product that has crystals in it. This often happens in transit. This is a guide on how to correct this issue. First: Does this mean the product is bad? No, this does not mean the product is bad. When our topicals are made...

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I would say 1.5-2ml should be plenty. Honestly, people got awesome results from Icon One and that was 112.5mg/application.

 

[delsolrob]

Question for anyone familiar with the Alpha Gainz products…Some sites say their “4 andro transdermal” also includes 100mg of 1 andro, per ml…..This true?

I think you're thinking of Alpha Four - that combined 225mg 4-DHEA and 100mg androsterone per application

 

[Rad83]

Appreciate the responses!

Here’s a couple examples of shitt that confused me lol

 

[mikeymike85]

Lol I buy from F.I.N too -- noticed the screengrab

 

[mikeymike85]

V1 was 75mg/ml of 1-DHEA V2 is 125mg/ml of 1-DHEA - V2 did have issues with crashing - particularly in these colder times. if you find crystals in your bottle you can use the steps at this link to fix it

What To Do If Your Bottle Has Crystals In It

Sometimes, especially during colder months, you may receive a topical product that has crystals in it. This often happens in transit. This is a guide on how to correct this issue. First: Does this mean the product is bad? No, this does not mean the product is bad. When our topicals are made...

iron-legion.com

I would say 1.5-2ml should be plenty. Honestly, people got awesome results from Icon One and that was 112.5mg/application.

Sweet- yeah going to do 200-250 for 45 days. Var for 3 months on top. Have some old Anadrol laying around, may throw that around too, but I've held on to pretty good mass the last year... just looking for vascularity.

 

[Rad83]

Lol I buy from F.I.N too -- noticed the screengrab

I haven’t shopped with them yet but they got some good stuff

 

[Rad83]

Sweet- yeah going to do 200-250 for 45 days. Var for 3 months on top. Have some old Anadrol laying around, may throw that around too, but I've held on to pretty good mass the last year... just looking for vascularity.

High dose of epiandro and any good pump formula = vascularity

 

[mikeymike85]

I haven’t shopped with them yet but they got some good stuff

They do, and he ships super quick.. ordered for years

 

[mikeymike85]

High dose of epiandro and any good pump formula = vascularity

Can't do it- my hairline takes a dump on that one. lol.

 

[KvanH]

Appreciate the responses!

Here’s a couple examples of shitt that confused me lol

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That's just a screw up on the Pred website. It isn't the first, lol.

 

[jim2509]

Thanks brother. I think I'm going to run 250 mg of 1-andro, either from IF or Alpha Gainz. After researching, sounds like it should be a decent compound to pair with Var.

Predator do Nano 1-Testosterone in liquid ( dihydroboldenone ). 1-AD (1-Androstendiol) was the prohormone of 1-testosterone. Might be worth a look, but I haven't use it so can't vouch for it's effectiveness.