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I have found the areas that work for me 95% of the time up to a couple of cc's with no issue, but this was definitely something to do with the gear this time.
Yeah, I have had the occasional insert needle, pull it right back out, WTF nerve pain, this was actually smooth going, just a bit slow to go in so I thought maybe it hit connective tissue somehow when it first started hurting then it became obvious it was probably something else.
Yeah I know what you mean because if something goes wrong with a shot in your quads and the results can be brutal.
Yeah, I even inspected it really close again because I didn't want to toss my masteron out but I pull my test first then pull the masteron so if the test had bacteria in it the masteron does now too. So they both had to go bye bye. At least the mast was half gone already.
Does that actually get rid of bacteria?
Yeah, I made this mistake before and had to do some interesting math to correct the blunder later in the cycle.

So regarding the leg boy oh boy did it get worse! I could barely walk, and only for short periods or my whole outer thigh would start throbbing. The swelling was all the way down my outer quad and bending my leg more than 15-20 degrees was excruciating. I had been sweating a lot so I checked and was running a low grade fever. So I took some antibiotics I had from a previous illness and took a couple days off of work to recover and rest since sleep was almost impossible. Swelling has gone down considerably, and ROM has improved quite a bit. I can walk without a limp, and I am excited that I will be going to train here shortly!

Here are some of my check in pics from this morning at 215lbs up 20.6lbs from low of cut.
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If it was 1987 you would be a Suzuki quad racer 500. Known only as QUADZILLA. Lookin full as FUK! Keep putting that work in. Very inspirational!!!
 
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Man you are looking really “swole” now, and your arms and quads are looking huge, especially those quads. You’re becoming the “Quadzilla” of Anabolic Minds.
Here are some of my check in pics from this morning at 215lbs up 20.6lbs from low of cut.
oh man sorry to hear about the infection but good grief you're going to be giving the old Quadrasaurus Rex a run for his money soon, your quads are looking thicc!


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Some very good progress made over all this time!
hanks, the difference is pretty stellar!
Wow man things are really coming along, looking lean but huge at the same time! Legs have really blowin up on these progress pictures I think.
Thanks yeah legs just keep filling out. Definitely not complaining
Damn dude you are still blowing up! Can see some great leg development in these shots!
Thanks Benny!
You definitely had an infection….good thing you caught it in time, and had some antibiotics. The last thing you need is a nasty infection in a quad to derail all your hard work.
Man you are looking really “swole” now, and your arms and quads are looking huge, especially those quads. You’re becoming the “Quadzilla” of Anabolic Minds.💪😎
Thanks, definitely thickening up a good bit for sure.
Looking amazing brother!
Appreciate it!
If it was 1987 you would be a Suzuki quad racer 500. Known only as QUADZILLA. Lookin full as FUK! Keep putting that work in. Very inspirational!!!
LMAO, NICE!
oh man sorry to hear about the infection but good grief you're going to be giving the old Quadrasaurus Rex a run for his money soon, your quads are looking thicc!


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I had forgotten how unreal he looked, he was a favorite of mine for a while. Everything was just thick and massive slabs of meat!
 
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Here is a dump of my last several training sessions.

Chest & Biceps (Monday)
Monday, Feb 12, 2024 at 4:42am

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 115 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 2: 95 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 95 lbs x 2 @ 10 rpe
Set 4: 95 lbs x 1 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 85 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 85 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 85 lbs x 6 @ 10 rpe
Set 4: 60 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 35 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 80 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Chest Fly (Machine)
Set 1: 120 lbs x 21 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 120 lbs x 21 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 120 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Spider Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 30 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 25 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 25 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 25 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

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Legs - (Tuesday)
Tuesday, Feb 13, 2024 at 4:39am

Arsenal Belt Squat
Set 1: 215 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 2: 170 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Leg Press (Machine)
Set 1: 380 lbs x 20 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 470 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 470 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe

Walking Lunge (Dumbbell)

Romanian Deadlift (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 245 lbs x 10 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 245 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 245 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe

Ran out of time then pain in leg became to bad to perform later.

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Back & Hamstrings
Saturday, Feb 17, 2024 at 7:29pm

Seated Cable Row - Bar Grip
Set 1: 130 lbs x 15 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 130 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 110 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe

Arsenal Wide grip Pronated Chest Supported Row
Set 1: 90 lbs x 10 @ 6 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 3: 110 lbs x 10 @ 9.5 rpe

Iso-Lateral High Row (Machine)
"Last set +2 partial reps"
Set 1: 90 lbs x 11 @ 10 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 70 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Standing Lateral Raise
"+2 partial reps on last set"
Set 1: 40 lbs x 20 @ 6 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 3: 80 lbs x 10 @ 8 rpe
Set 4: 60 lbs x 18 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Incline DB Rear Delt Flyes
Set 1: 25 lbs x 20 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 30 lbs x 20 @ 10 rpe

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Arms
Sunday, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:32pm

Cross Cable Tricep Extension
Set 1: 50 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 60 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe
Set 4: 38.5 lbs x 15 @ 9.5 rpe

Triceps Dip (Assisted)
Set 1: 0 lbs x 10 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 40 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 85 lbs x 13 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 4: 85 lbs x 11 @ 9.5 rpe

EZ Bar Skullcrusher
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 60 lbs x 12 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 60 lbs x 8 @ 9 rpe

Diamond Push Up
Set 1: 14 reps
Set 2: 9 reps
Set 3: 7 reps

Single Arm Preacher Curl
"Life fitness machine"
Set 1: 65 lbs x 10 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 65 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 50 lbs x 8 @ 10 rpe

Seated Incline Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 35 lbs x 10 @ 10 rpe
Set 2: 30 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 18 @ 10 rpe
 
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I had forgotten how unreal he looked, he was a favorite of mine for a while. Everything was just thick and massive slabs of meat!
Me too, always liked him. that pic makes the lats look a tad on the inflatable/ridiculous side lol, but other than that your update pics lately keep reminding me of him.

Ran out of time then pain in leg became to bad to perform later.
is it at least getting better?
 
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Me too, always liked him. that pic makes the lats look a tad on the inflatable/ridiculous side lol, but other than that your update pics lately keep reminding me of him.



is it at least getting better?
@Dustin07 Oh yeah, much better, that was actually the last session I was able to do anything involving my legs last week. I will train legs on Wednesday, and today will be my first cardio session back on the books. I am not expecting any issues. I can flex now without pain, and even better can stretch the quads without pain. If it is not 100% better, it is close enough I don't really know the difference. I will be heading to do cardio in about 40 minutes, I expect it to go well.
 
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Cardio went very well. No pain or issues at all with my leg.

Elliptical - 25 minutes - level 15 - HR @135-150BPM +5 minute cooldown = 349 calories
 
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That’s great man…..any kind of infection can put a scare in you, so glad it resolved pretty quick.
 
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That’s some good news indeed!
Agreed!
That’s great man…..any kind of infection can put a scare in you, so glad it resolved pretty quick.
Yeah, it had me nervous, especially with how painful it was.
right on, glad you're doing better!!
Same here! ;)
Glad to hear it went well and pain free!
Thanks!

Chest & Biceps - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:45am

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 120 lbs x 7 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 100 lbs x 2 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 90 lbs x 11 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 90 lbs x 8 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 90 lbs x 6 @ 10 rpe
Set 4: 60 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 35 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 3: 60 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Chest Fly (Machine)
Set 1: 120 lbs x 21 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 120 lbs x 21 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 120 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Spider Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 30 lbs x 13 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 30 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 30 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 25 lbs x 13 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe


Was able to get in some nice progression on almost all lifts! Had a massive pump and was looking super thick.

Cardio - 1 hour walk on the hills by the bayou. I was scheduled for a 25 minute session, but yesterday was so nice that I really wanted to get out in the sun. Get a little natty Vit D production going on. I did push the pace to make it a higher effort level and have no doubts I burned the same amount of calories over the course of the hour.

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2/21/24 - Fasted Weight 217.2 - Weight still tracking up, although I do feel I am starting to get a little softer than I want to be. I am just trusting in my coach, and the process at this point. I know he won't let me get too far from the goal post.

I forgot that my alarms are set to let me sleep in on Wednesday which is usually a cardio only day. So I was quite surprised when I woke up to my alarm and it said 6:00AM. So going to have to work legs across the street during lunch today in order to avoid training when I get home. I will make it work.
 
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Knocked out my cardio during lunch, going to train legs in the garage tonight, no preworkout, should be fun. :)
 
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Knocked out my cardio during lunch, going to train legs in the garage tonight, no preworkout, should be fun. :)
Realizing I'm the young buck here when I say: the last 2 weeks have been my first ever in 10+ years of using mesomorph of not using pre-workout daily... I'm not sure if I'm liberated or hate my life.
 
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Agreed!
Yeah, it had me nervous, especially with how painful it was.
Same here! ;)

Thanks!

Chest & Biceps - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:45am

Incline Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 120 lbs x 7 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 100 lbs x 7 @ 10 rpe
Set 3: 100 lbs x 2 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Iso-Lateral Chest Press (Machine)
Set 1: 90 lbs x 11 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 90 lbs x 8 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 90 lbs x 6 @ 10 rpe
Set 4: 60 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]
Set 5: 35 lbs x 5 @ 10 rpe [Drop]

Bench Press (Cable)
Set 1: 60 lbs x 15 @ 7 rpe
Set 2: 70 lbs x 13 @ 10 rpe [Failure]
Set 3: 60 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Chest Fly (Machine)
Set 1: 120 lbs x 21 @ 8 rpe
Set 2: 120 lbs x 21 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 3: 120 lbs x 19 @ 10 rpe [Failure]

Spider Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 30 lbs x 13 @ 8.5 rpe
Set 2: 30 lbs x 14 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 3: 30 lbs x 12 @ 10 rpe

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
Set 1: 25 lbs x 13 @ 9.5 rpe
Set 2: 20 lbs x 15 @ 9 rpe
Set 3: 20 lbs x 15 @ 10 rpe


Was able to get in some nice progression on almost all lifts! Had a massive pump and was looking super thick.

Cardio - 1 hour walk on the hills by the bayou. I was scheduled for a 25 minute session, but yesterday was so nice that I really wanted to get out in the sun. Get a little natty Vit D production going on. I did push the pace to make it a higher effort level and have no doubts I burned the same amount of calories over the course of the hour.

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2/21/24 - Fasted Weight 217.2 - Weight still tracking up, although I do feel I am starting to get a little softer than I want to be. I am just trusting in my coach, and the process at this point. I know he won't let me get too far from the goal post.

I forgot that my alarms are set to let me sleep in on Wednesday which is usually a cardio only day. So I was quite surprised when I woke up to my alarm and it said 6:00AM. So going to have to work legs across the street during lunch today in order to avoid training when I get home. I will make it work.
That is a nice session and I bet a great pump! Sometimes it’s hard to beat a nice walk outside soaking up the sunshine. It was like 57 here today and man it felt great in the sun!
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That is a nice session and I bet a great pump! Sometimes it’s hard to beat a nice walk outside soaking up the sunshine. It was like 57 here today and man it felt great in the sun!
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Glad you guys are having some nice weather. I had aerial lift and ladder recertification yesterday. It was 25 was a constant 15MPH Wind. The fun part was being at full vertical extension and having to do a complete clockwise and counter clockwise rotation. Good times!
The guy re-certing us is a transfer from Florida and worked mostly in underground neighborhoods…..those who can’t do, teach! 🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪
 
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Realizing I'm the young buck here when I say: the last 2 weeks have been my first ever in 10+ years of using mesomorph of not using pre-workout daily... I'm not sure if I'm liberated or hate my life.
Oh yeah, it is both freeing and missed when you first start going without. You realize you can get just as intense without it, but if worn out and don't have one for those days it just sucks.
That is a nice session and I bet a great pump! Sometimes it’s hard to beat a nice walk outside soaking up the sunshine. It was like 57 here today and man it felt great in the sun!
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Conair baby! Great movie!
Glad you guys are having some nice weather. I had aerial lift and ladder recertification yesterday. It was 25 was a constant 15MPH Wind. The fun part was being at full vertical extension and having to do a complete clockwise and counter clockwise rotation. Good times!
The guy re-certing us is a transfer from Florida and worked mostly in underground neighborhoods…..those who can’t do, teach! 🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪
Wow, that sounds crazy, what is it you do again?

Legs - Wednesday 2/21/24

IronTec Lever Squats - 3 warm up sets
365x10 - RPE7
415x6 - RPE9.5
365x10 - RPE9.5
- The 415 was definitely the heaviest I have gone on this particular movement, it felt good. No spotter so avoided failure on these.

IronTec Lever Leg Press - 315x20 x3 sets @REP7, 8, and 9 - My lower back really did not enjoy these at all. Something about the way it is designed caused a lot of rocking of the hips and started irritating my lower back. By the end of the last set it was really bitching and tight. So I decided to call it there rather than push it, and will add a little more leg work in today after my cardio.

I am going to see if I can go ahead and swap to the early shift starting next week. I really need to have time to complete my leg sessions in one session. Only 90 minutes in the morning is not enough when it takes a while to warm up to my working weights, and rushing the process has definitely not been the answer, and working out in the garage not such a great option since actual squats are out of the equation. If not, I will reorder my says so that my main leg day falls on Saturdays so I can get it all done in one session.
 
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Oh yeah, it is both freeing and missed when you first start going without. You realize you can get just as intense without it, but if worn out and don't have one for those days it just sucks.
Conair baby! Great movie!
Wow, that sounds crazy, what is it you do again?

Legs - Wednesday 2/21/24

IronTec Lever Squats - 3 warm up sets
365x10 - RPE7
415x6 - RPE9.5
365x10 - RPE9.5
- The 415 was definitely the heaviest I have gone on this particular movement, it felt good. No spotter so avoided failure on these.

IronTec Lever Leg Press - 315x20 x3 sets @REP7, 8, and 9 - My lower back really did not enjoy these at all. Something about the way it is designed caused a lot of rocking of the hips and started irritating my lower back. By the end of the last set it was really bitching and tight. So I decided to call it there rather than push it, and will add a little more leg work in today after my cardio.

I am going to see if I can go ahead and swap to the early shift starting next week. I really need to have time to complete my leg sessions in one session. Only 90 minutes in the morning is not enough when it takes a while to warm up to my working weights, and rushing the process has definitely not been the answer, and working out in the garage not such a great option since actual squats are out of the equation. If not, I will reorder my says so that my main leg day falls on Saturdays so I can get it all done in one session.
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Cool, I can see why you would need some training and certification for that type of work. Was kind of thinking of some sort of rescue from the sounds of the training.

I am going to have to talk to my coach about only doing one show to try to qualify for the nationals, and maybe even only doing the one a week before nationals. Looking at the places he is recommending for my gear is easily doubling the estimated cost of prep so doing a bunch of preps would get extremely expensive. If I try to qualify in December that is only 1 week before nationals, so I would really only need one prep. It sucks when money starts to be a limiting factor here, but I need to be real with how far I want to stretch my family's budget for this. Either way, I know I am only willing to do one show now to try and qualify due to the increase in planned expense. It might be easier to qualify in the earlier smaller show. So need to discuss that with him too.

Maybe it is time to do Only Fans for feet only to pay for my stuff. LMAO!!!
 
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Great news, my boss just responded and told me we have 2 people out Monday, but I can start my early shift Tuesday, unfortunately it won't be the 6:30-3:00 shift I thought but it is 7:00-3:30 which is good enough. I think I may just get up around 5:00AM, and eat then head up here and do cardio before work. We will see, might sleep in and just do cardio at an earlier lunch, have another two meal throughout the day, then do weights when I get off.
 
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Cool, I can see why you would need some training and certification for that type of work. Was kind of thinking of some sort of rescue from the sounds of the training.

I am going to have to talk to my coach about only doing one show to try to qualify for the nationals, and maybe even only doing the one a week before nationals. Looking at the places he is recommending for my gear is easily doubling the estimated cost of prep so doing a bunch of preps would get extremely expensive. If I try to qualify in December that is only 1 week before nationals, so I would really only need one prep. It sucks when money starts to be a limiting factor here, but I need to be real with how far I want to stretch my family's budget for this. Either way, I know I am only willing to do one show now to try and qualify due to the increase in planned expense. It might be easier to qualify in the earlier smaller show. So need to discuss that with him too.

Maybe it is time to do Only Fans for feet only to pay for my stuff. LMAO!!!
That makes a lot of sense…..you would be able to put all your focus towards December, which would give you plenty of time to go kill it to qualify and at the Nationals. It probably not only would be better for your body but mentally as well.
 
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That makes a lot of sense…..you would be able to put all your focus towards December, which would give you plenty of time to go kill it to qualify and at the Nationals. It probably not only would be better for your body but mentally as well.
Agreed, but the rough part with that is I know that means longer bulking and man I am already hating food at this point. Feels like my digestive system is starting to revolt against my efforts. Could also be whatever might be in this Masteron bottle that had my liver values up is now causing some digestive issues. Since I will be getting new stuff and holding off on this stuff it would possibly remove that hurdle as well, or at least help it some.
 
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I did my cardio at lunch but chose not to do any more leg work. I will push a little extra Saturday when I do hamstrings.
 
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Agreed, but the rough part with that is I know that means longer bulking and man I am already hating food at this point. Feels like my digestive system is starting to revolt against my efforts. Could also be whatever might be in this Masteron bottle that had my liver values up is now causing some digestive issues. Since I will be getting new stuff and holding off on this stuff it would possibly remove that hurdle as well, or at least help it some.
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am going to have to talk to my coach about only doing one show to try to qualify for the nationals, and maybe even only doing the one a week before nationals. Looking at the places he is recommending for my gear is easily doubling the estimated cost of prep so doing a bunch of preps would get extremely expensive. If I try to qualify in December that is only 1 week before nationals, so I would really only need one prep. It sucks when money starts to be a limiting factor here, but I need to be real with how far I want to stretch my family's budget for this. Either way, I know I am only willing to do one show now to try and qualify due to the increase in planned expense. It might be easier to qualify in the earlier smaller show. So need to discuss that with him too.
so building into stage day you carb load to fill out right? What kind of challenges do you face with essentially no down time going from 1 show into the next, or are there any? I have known so many people that walk off stage then pound 7 apple pies put on 20lbs of regret sunday night. I imagine for you, getting on stage will actually be more like a training day then, and Sunday night you sorta start it all over again like peak week part II ?

I definitely see the value in this, being able to parlay all that hard work into 2 performance weeks. I'm just curious what the week between show 1 and show 2 would look like for you in terms of nutrition and training?

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7:00-3:30 which is good enough. I think I may just get up around 5:00AM, and eat then head up here and do cardio before work. We will see, might sleep in and just do cardio at an earlier lunch, have another two meal throughout the day, then do weights when I get off.
IDK about you but I think that's a great shift. like you said, definitely some before work options and 3:30 is early enough in the afternoon that you aren't completely smoked and can get a great post work session in on the days family life allows.
 
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so building into stage day you carb load to fill out right? What kind of challenges do you face with essentially no down time going from 1 show into the next, or are there any? I have known so many people that walk off stage then pound 7 apple pies put on 20lbs of regret sunday night. I imagine for you, getting on stage will actually be more like a training day then, and Sunday night you sorta start it all over again like peak week part II ?

I definitely see the value in this, being able to parlay all that hard work into 2 performance weeks. I'm just curious what the week between show 1 and show 2 would look like for you in terms of nutrition and training?



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IDK about you but I think that's a great shift. like you said, definitely some before work options and 3:30 is early enough in the afternoon that you aren't completely smoked and can get a great post work session in on the days family life allows.
Honestly, on that one I would be out of my element there, as the carb up and stuff would probably be modified somewhat on that 2nd week after a big carb load, or so I assume.

Oh dang, I thought I was being slick with all of my footwork! ;)

Yeah, I think it is a great shift, I would have preferred the 6:30-3:00 since I do cardio during lunch hour, but this will allow me to throw in some fasted cardio if that becomes a need or preference. Either way, I will have more productive sessions, my performance absolutely drops in the morning compared to even having 2 meals digested before training. If I get to the gym at 4:00 that should put me home around 6-6:30, go straight into meal 4 then and have meal 5 around 8:30-9, head to bed and repeat.
 
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I'm the same way generally. fasted cardio at 4:30am is one thing but my most stellar gym days are actually 11am.. gives me time to hydrate, carb load, get the body firing on all cylinders etc. BUT for many years I worked that 8am - 5pm shift and hitting the gym that late really does put a damper on things. even a 3:30pm clock off is a nice improvement. You're home in time for prime time television! 😂

(ahaha kids these days have no idea what it was like to tune in at 8pm7pm central...lol)
 
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I'm the same way generally. fasted cardio at 4:30am is one thing but my most stellar gym days are actually 11am.. gives me time to hydrate, carb load, get the body firing on all cylinders etc. BUT for many years I worked that 8am - 5pm shift and hitting the gym that late really does put a damper on things. even a 3:30pm clock off is a nice improvement. You're home in time for prime time television! 😂

(ahaha kids these days have no idea what it was like to tune in at 8pm7pm central...lol)
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By the way, I got in some good training sessions this weekend but didn't record it. I was using different machines on everything and tracking the weights and reps just didn't make a lot of sense to me while doing that. So I just put in the work, hit the same types of sets and crushed the workouts.

I did add some pull ups to my back workout instead of pulldowns just because, 5 sets, 5,5,5,4,4 first time in a long time but all this talk of pull ups in everyone's logs I wanted to do some. I did the NG and chest to bar with a dead hang and stretch at the bottom of every rep. I was impressed I could still get chest to bar that well, it's a LONG pull with a neutral close grip.

Today is a cardio only day, but no time for lunch today so will be doing my cardio when I get off work tonight. A man has gotta do what a man has gotta do!
 
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Cardio was good last night did the Elliptical in the garage. Not sure on calories or heart rate just 25 minutes hard work and a 5 minute cooldown.

This morning a became a real man, joining the ranks of the Chicken Shake drinkers! Not as bad as expected, but what I learned from the experience is one gulp, one swallow. I went to chug it and the consistency almost got me. So I went to one massive gulp at a time, and it wasn't all that bad. I was surprised how easily my nutribullet decimated the chicken.

Scheduled changed as of today, and I went back to the other meal plan meant for working out in the afternoon. It is a lot less sugar, so I think it will be better for insulin sensitivity. Just going to be a challenge to get the additional volume in, but blending the chicken should help improve digestion too.
 
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Scheduled changed as of today, and I went back to the other meal plan meant for working out in the afternoon. It is a lot less sugar, so I think it will be better for insulin sensitivity. Just going to be a challenge to get the additional volume in, but blending the chicken should help improve digestion too.
I wonder if a pho broth base would help at all, or if the blended chicken consistency would ruin it no matter what. when we have pho I end up drinking that stuff like water in the end, but of course it's not porridgey
 
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I wonder if a pho broth base would help at all, or if the blended chicken consistency would ruin it no matter what. when we have pho I end up drinking that stuff like water in the end, but of course it's not porridgey
I think if you like pho then that would help improve the taste for you for sure. Honestly not really thick like a porridge so much as you can just feel the tiny fibers of chicken after you swallow but it is so fine it is damn near powdered. Mine was already grilled and cubed up with a pollo casera seasoning on it. I just added a little more of the seasoning and blended it until I was sure there would not be any bits of chicken. I do agree, don't smell it too much, it doesn't smell bad perse, just doesn't smell like anything you should be drinking, instead grabbing a fork and knife. LOL
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Right! Honestly, it was a lot better than I expected, not good, but not bad, and definitely better than I expected. I do imagine broth of almost any kind would make it better.

Kind of triggered my lower back today just sliding a doorstop over under a door with my foot. Had to do cardio on the bike and not push too hard. Happy I will be doing chest today and not something lower back intensive. Took some aleve and hoping this doesn't carry on into tomorrow, but will likely modify leg work to protect it either way just to be safe.
 
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I think if you like pho then that would help improve the taste for you for sure. Honestly not really thick like a porridge so much as you can just feel the tiny fibers of chicken after you swallow but it is so fine it is damn near powdered. Mine was already grilled and cubed up with a pollo casera seasoning on it. I just added a little more of the seasoning and blended it until I was sure there would not be any bits of chicken. I do agree, don't smell it too much, it doesn't smell bad perse, just doesn't smell like anything you should be drinking, instead grabbing a fork and knife. LOL

Right! Honestly, it was a lot better than I expected, not good, but not bad, and definitely better than I expected. I do imagine broth of almost any kind would make it better.

Kind of triggered my lower back today just sliding a doorstop over under a door with my foot. Had to do cardio on the bike and not push too hard. Happy I will be doing chest today and not something lower back intensive. Took some aleve and hoping this doesn't carry on into tomorrow, but will likely modify leg work to protect it either way just to be safe.
Dang sorry to hear the lower back triggered again, I’d slather it up in the horse liniment tonight too!
 
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Dang sorry to hear the lower back triggered again, I’d slather it up in the horse liniment tonight too!
Me too! That is what I did after getting in some chest and biceps at the gym.
Stay ahead of it; you know how to listen to your body so trust yourself.

I know that tiny chicken fiber feeling. It’s a strange thing.
Doing my best, I think I might just do leg extensions and leg curls for legs today, and stop those if they cause any issues. Going to try to do a few 10 minute walks today and will likely do slower paced cardio on the recumbent bike again today. I am definitely still very sensitive. Also going to see if i can get in to see my chiropractor. Seems like it might be a disc issue to cause that much pain from something so minimal. So hoping an adjustment might help things.

I did chest and biceps yesterday, did not record anything because the entire session was a fill in. I chose to use all weight stack loaded machines so that I was not having to carry my weights anywhere. I also had to be careful not to arch my lower back while pressing because that did not feel good at all. Either way, I achieved one of the best chest pumps I have had in forever. At the peak of the pump I could try to bounce my pecs and they literally didn't move they were so full of blood. They were actually aching, same with my biceps, I get this on biceps training enough not to be surprised but my pecs being so full they ached was kind of new for me.

Incline Converging Chest press x3 sets to RPE9-10
Converging Chest Press x4 sets @RPE9-10
Cable Chest Press 3 sets @RPE9-10
Hammer Strength Straight Arm Pec Deck - 3 sets of 21's - failed @ 19 on last set

Hammer Strength Preacher Curls - x3 sets to RPE9-10
Chest Supported Spider Curls - 3 sets to failure

2/28/24 - Fasted Weight 216.4 lbs
- Moving up ever so slightly. Body fat is a little higher now, starting to get a little of the pseudo gyno coming back now with the increase in fat. It is not bad but noticeable to me.
 
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Man I hope your back gets to feeling better….good call on going to the chiropractor. I bring my chiropractor a lot of business, but he is a life saver for these old bones. Good thing is he’s a physical therapist with the local college and really believes in working around injuries, especially supporting muscles, and not just laying around resting. I know rest is important, but if you rest too much, when you’re older, things get stiff. Of course with your workout schedule you don’t have any worry with stiffness from inactivity.😎
 
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Man I hope your back gets to feeling better….good call on going to the chiropractor. I bring my chiropractor a lot of business, but he is a life saver for these old bones. Good thing is he’s a physical therapist with the local college and really believes in working around injuries, especially supporting muscles, and not just laying around resting. I know rest is important, but if you rest too much, when you’re older, things get stiff. Of course with your workout schedule you don’t have any worry with stiffness from inactivity.😎
Yeah, Hopefully I can get in there tomorrow. I have vendors coming in today to do some work and have to deal with them so I won't have time to sneak off for that today unfortunately. Definitely no inactivity around here for sure.
 
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You know you are pumped when you go to flex and there’s no change in dimension! Must have been gnarly.
 
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2/28/24 - Fasted Weight 216.4 lbs - Moving up ever so slightly. Body fat is a little higher now, starting to get a little of the pseudo gyno coming back now with the increase in fat. It is not bad but noticeable to me.
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so speaking of that, on a recent Hubberman labs podcast I was listening too he was talking about things that cause prolactin spikes, one being orgasm. Another of course being alcohol. It seems like most of what I read ties prolactin into gyno, although there are some studies out there or at least opinions that are suspect. In my personal experience, it seems like maybe one or both of these things combined give me that tiny pinched nipple look I complained about last year. I haven't had the itchiness since I found Alpha Gel, but every once in a while the pecks aren't as fully filled out and plump in that one area and I kinda want to do an experiment and see if I can tie that in with either too much alcohol, or a night with the wife.
 
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so speaking of that, on a recent Hubberman labs podcast I was listening too he was talking about things that cause prolactin spikes, one being orgasm. Another of course being alcohol. It seems like most of what I read ties prolactin into gyno, although there are some studies out there or at least opinions that are suspect. In my personal experience, it seems like maybe one or both of these things combined give me that tiny pinched nipple look I complained about last year. I haven't had the itchiness since I found Alpha Gel, but every once in a while the pecks aren't as fully filled out and plump in that one area and I kinda want to do an experiment and see if I can tie that in with either too much alcohol, or a night with the wife.
Prolactin is a satiety hormone - it is released when you cum, and even when you eat protein! For women, it will secrete with consumption of any macro.

Obviously, many men eat protein multiple times a day, and do not have any gyno. Do not confuse minor hormonal transience with a sustained unbalanced environment that can allow gynecomastia to develop.
 

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