That is one hell of a home gymJust found your log; great home gym!
That is one hell of a home gymJust found your log; great home gym!
It’s a great tool. Not as versatile as a Bench Blokz, but higher quality and it’s a pretty perfect size if you were only going to get a single board size. We have one at the barbell club and it’s better for a 2-board setting.Nice session, glad the pec is feeling better. Like the looks of that pad.
I would be really curious for you to lay out a typical day of eating. Not like pictures, just a quick note of what all your meals were on a random day.* Banana, 2 coffees
Delts
Smith BNP - 5 sets
Smith Front Press - 5 sets
Arnold Press - 5 sets
Rear Delt Flyes - 5 sets
Rear Delt Machine - 5 sets
Smith-Shrugs - 5 sets
Lateral Raises - 5 sets
* Oatmeal w/ cinnamon mixed w/ Vanilla Almond Milk
Not a believer in the "eat HUGE" methods of today. For me it doesnt work, only my stomach grows.I would be really curious for you to lay out a typical day of eating. Not like pictures, just a quick note of what all your meals were on a random day.
You’re in great shape supporting a lot of hard-built muscle with minimal hormones, and I’m sure you don’t need tons of calories anymore, so I would like to see what is sufficient to keep these lights on. Plus I think it would be beneficial for other guys.
That’s kind of how I thought you ate, thank you. I think people get sold this idea by the supplement companies that they need more protein than they really do. Not that protein is bad or should be limited, but if you’re getting about 4 feedings per day and eating some real food most people can do a lot without sweating the details. Eat less or more if you need to lose or gain.Not a believer in the "eat HUGE" methods of today. For me it doesnt work, only my stomach grows.
I like how the 70's guys used to eat, normal meals.
Normal training day (M thru F):
1. Banana, shake, 2 coffees (pre-workout)
2. Oatmeal (or steak & eggs) - depending how lazy I am.
3. Chicken or steak, carrots, rice (or Potatoe)
4. Normal dinner (whatever my wife cooks, normal chicken, meat and/or pasta dish)
5. Snacks: ice cream, apple, maybe some Juji Fruit candy, etc... (LOL)
Weekends I eat whatever. We go out most SAT's (so burgers, pizza, Chinese, etc).
I never counted calories or tracked, just did it instinctively.
new here, first post. I joined to help with motivation and your thread was on point esp since you're in your 50s. Like you I've been training since high school, trained for an NPC contest in my 40s, currently in my 60s, and planning on doing another NPC contest in 2025.Home Gym (I use both home and commercial)
Great to hear you’re feeling and recovering well!Update I posted elsewhere, but Ill post random updates here.
Tapering off TRT from 125 mg down to 50 mg (sub-q), going on 2-3 weeks now (Forget the exact day).
Also got enclomiphine in, just on day 3 now of 6.25 mg a day. I'll only be going off of feel for a few months as my complete physical and bloods are 12 weeks from now. (Doc's dont do Test-levels as part of normal bloods, but I will do my own in unison).
That will give me a good amount of time to get stable bloods. (I'm not too concerned as of now).
I do feel much better on lower TRT, prostate is much better (piss flow) and anxious feeling is basically gone.
Have lost no body-weight or strength that I can tell (since my dose was so low to begin with I guess).
I cant bench properly (pec strain), so of course I will lose some size/strength there Im guessing.
Ill give it another couple weeks to heal up. Feeling better already (but I can tell its still there trying to heal up).
Dont wanna push it too early.
Thx... Yeah it worked out where my last pin was MON and I got the stuff later that same day.Great to hear you’re feeling and recovering well!
If you haven’t stopped the test injections yet, do so now that you’re on the enclomiphene so it can begin restarting your HPTA.
As long as any exogenous testosterone is present, it will work against the signaling of the enclo that is telling your brain to start producing Leutenizing hormone. If you keep pinning 50mg even, you will have low test levels and also prevent your own from firing back up.
No they will not be an issue hormone-wise; just be mindful they aren’t drying you out too much (which makes you more likely to strain things).Thx... Yeah it worked out where my last pin was MON and I got the stuff later that same day.
I think the couple-week taper also worked out well...
Goal is to run this and get my bloods to see where everything is at.
Im not concerned with crazy test-levels (if im around 500 that would be OK w/ me). I was at 253 ng/dl before I went on TRT after a decade on statins.
(I was hovering around 700 ng/dl at age 40 natty before going on statins).
So in 10 yrs (age and statins) seemed to kill test levels.
My main goal is to feel better and not lose much of anything.
In April 2022, in gym meet I did raw - 355 bench, and 500 for both DL and SQ. (Raw, 200 lbs, and only on 125 mg test).
Working to get back up there after shoulder, calf, back and now pec strains. (Im close).
That meet and 355 bench lift is where my rotator strain happened, took 18 months to recover fully.
Also using Arimahex and Iron Legion Invictus ATM... Will that cause me any issues with enclomiphine?
Most of my recent injuries are for sure hydration related. My goal is to drink more water.No they will not be an issue hormone-wise; just be mindful they aren’t drying you out too much (which makes you more likely to strain things).
Squatting 500, let alone 2.5x bodyweight, in your 50s is a great feat. Many guys have to hang up heavy squatting by then; you see a lot more guys above 40 doing push-pull instead of full power at meets.
I jumped on TRT (my total was at 253 ng/dl) and have been on since - 125 mg a week, split into 2 doses
You didnt state which blood labs your doc pulls, and I am assuming your doc is aware of your TRT use. Not here to preach but if you or your doc have not ordered Hemoglobin, Red Blood Cell count and Hematocrit labs, consider getting those done. You dont want to have erythrocytosis due to TRT. I donate blood every 3 months precisely to keep my Hct at normal levels. See Endocrinology Society guidelines below this text.Tapering off TRT from 125 mg down to 50 mg (sub-q), going on 2-3 weeks now (Forget the exact day).
Also got enclomiphine in, just on day 3 now of 6.25 mg a day. I'll only be going off of feel for a few months as my complete physical and bloods are 12 weeks from now. (Doc's dont do Test-levels as part of normal bloods, but I will do my own in unison).
That will give me a good amount of time to get stable bloods. (I'm not too concerned as of now).
I do feel much better on lower TRT, prostate is much better (piss flow) and anxious feeling is basically gone.
What do you find your Ferritin levels to be on that routine intensive phlebotomy schedule?You didnt state which blood labs your doc pulls, and I am assuming your doc is aware of your TRT use. Not here to preach but if you or your doc have not ordered Hemoglobin, Red Blood Cell count and Hematocrit labs, consider getting those done. You dont want to have erythrocytosis due to TRT. I donate blood every 3 months precisely to keep my Hct at normal levels. See Endocrinology Society guidelines below this text.
Also, I take IM Test Cyp (0.8 cc) every 10 days though my endocrinologist initially Rxd every 14 days. Half life is 8 days. There is no reason to take test cyp more than once per week, considering testes synthesize 6 mg per day. You obviously prior to starting TRT were on the lower end of cut off. Since I have KS my levels without TRT are around 100. Like me you have a family and they need us. You dont want to leave them sooner than necessary. Plus as you mentioned, adverse events suck.
Note the following info is from a free link. The Endocrinology Society guidelines are an accepted benchmark re HCT
Erythrocytosis
T administration increases hemoglobin and hematocrit (88, 89); these effects are related to T doses and circulating concentrations (89). In some men with hypogonadism, T therapy can cause erythrocytosis (hematocrit > 54%). The increase in hematocrit during T administration and the frequency of erythrocytosis is higher in older men than in young men (87). The commissioned meta-analysis showed that T treatment was associated with a significantly higher frequency of erythrocytosis vs placebo. The hematocrit level at which the risk of neuro-occlusive or cardiovascular events increases is not known. The frequency of neuro-occlusive events in men with hypogonadism enrolled in RCTs of T who developed erythrocytosis has been very low.
Clinicians should evaluate men who develop erythrocytosis during T-replacement therapy and withhold T therapy until hematocrit has returned to the normal range and then resume T therapy at a lower dose. Using therapeutic phlebotomy to lower hematocrit is also effective in managing T treatment–induced erythrocytosis.
Testosterone Therapy in Men With Hypogonadism: An Endocrine Society* Clinical Practice Guideline
The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Volume 103, Issue 5, May 2018, Pages 1715–1744, https://doi.org/10.1210/jc.2018-00229
I struggle with that myself, I’m sure you have tried them before. But like dollar stores have all kinds of flavor packets for water. I get a variety but things like sonic cherry limeade flavor and they are single packets, so I can throw them in my lunch box and mix them all day. Makes getting my water intake a lot easier, for me at least. Then in the winter I tend to drink a lot more coffee, so I have to be more diligent.Most of my recent injuries are for sure hydration related. My goal is to drink more water.
Ill go a whole day and realize I only had one bottled water, not good... I cramp a lot, etc.
Been doing much better with it the last couple of weeks, except the pec strain, I realized I had zero water all day FRI, then strained it benching on SAT... Thx Hyde
WNLWhat do you find your Ferritin levels to be on that routine intensive phlebotomy schedule?
Good for you. I would never maintain that level donating half that frequently.
For whatever its worth, I buy my 10 ml vials of Test Cyp, 200 mg / ml, at Walgreens with Good Rx coupons for less than $40.My Doc did the entire blood panel, but they dont do testosterone. All my numbers are always perfect...
Thats a separate test (testosterone), I handle that on my own... I use Dr's for as little as possible, I let them know as little as possible.
I do my own meds these days out of India, and do my own bloods accordingly (statins and Test, full panels, etc.)...
Yes, Im odd... Would rather handle things myself these days, as much as I can at least...
Same here started last night 8-10 inches so far hard to tell with the wind.Shoulders
Barbell BNP - 5 sets
Machine Press - 5 sets
Arnold Press - 5 sets
Rear Delt Machine - 5 sets
Side Laterals - 5 sets
Front Raises - 5 sets
Smith Shrug (to the back) - 5 sets
-Meal (post) Chicken breast w/ noodles
Going out to clear a foot of snow (Cardio), cleared like 1/2 a foot (or more) yesterday.
Glad its the fluffy stuff though... We got dumped on pretty good for our first storm of the season.
It's worth a try..Most of my recent injuries are for sure hydration related. My goal is to drink more water.
Ill go a whole day and realize I only had one bottled water, not good... I cramp a lot, etc.
Been doing much better with it the last couple of weeks, except the pec strain, I realized I had zero water all day FRI, then strained it benching on SAT... Thx Hyde
Thx Z, I did buy some electrolyte powder to add to my drinks, giving it a shot... On top of more fluids..It's worth a try..
Z...
Killin those delts man!!!Shoulders
Barbell BNP - 5 sets
Machine Press - 5 sets
Arnold Press - 5 sets
Rear Delt Machine - 5 sets
Side Laterals - 5 sets
Front Raises - 5 sets
Smith Shrug (to the back) - 5 sets
-Meal (post) Chicken breast w/ noodles
Going out to clear a foot of snow (Cardio), cleared like 1/2 a foot (or more) yesterday.
Glad its the fluffy stuff though... We got dumped on pretty good for our first storm of the season.
Im lucky as well, my wife always helps me, cleans off cars, moves them out, shovels steps, etc...Killin those delts man!!!
Yeah, we got covered pretty nice. I skipped cardio and lifting yest and cleared the 15 plus we got. My wife went BEAST MODE and shoveled the 2 decks and walkway while I was snowblowing. We are both sore but I am gonna suck it up and get w workout in.
Ive always gone to Mike Sr. at Tattoo Fever since 1983. Most of mine are now very old and have blurred out a bit.She does the same w the cars. She soooo wanted to help clean my work truck off but it’s a pain. F450 dually w double knuckle boom.
she doesn’t weed wack but insists I leave the back yard for her to mow. She says it’s “soothing”
So sounds like we r both lucky!
I gotta ask, who is your ink guy?
In Pelham? My wife got one at old location. From Dana I think. Was 2004Ive always gone to Mike Sr. at Tattoo Fever since 1983. Most of mine are now very old and have blurred out a bit.
Some newer ones on my back still look fine though..
Yup... Dana does some great work...In Pelham? My wife got one at old location. From Dana I think. Was 2004
You done good, HammerIt’s a love/hate relationship for me with squats. Did them yesterday and the trip to the coffee maker this morning felt like the walk of shame!
I love the username and avatar... Ivan Putski was one of my favorite wrestlers when I was a kid.It’s a love/hate relationship for me with squats. Did them yesterday and the trip to the coffee maker this morning felt like the walk of shame!
Probably watered the grass simultaneously as you mowed at that weightMy wife is usually extra-motivated to mow when she’s cutting, because she doesn’t mind it and can count it as cardio. I got really lucky last meet prep when I was bulking up past 265 for early October and she was dieting to make a cut to 140 at the Olympia a few weeks later. I don’t think I mowed the lawn more than 3 times past July this year!
And when I did, it took my sorry ass about half an hour longer than her
This was a really cool strength history video on Ken Patera I saw recently:I love the username and avatar... Ivan Putski was one of my favorite wrestlers when I was a kid.
I liked the Strongmen wrestlers. Patera, Putski, etc...
Saw the Von Erich "Iron Claw" movie last week... They did a decent job w/ it...
Anyone can post here, no worries bud. I spent an evening drinking with Ken when he was inducted into the AOBS Strongman org.This was a really cool strength history video on Ken Patera I saw recently:
I can delete this comment if you don’t want this here, but I figured you might enjoy it with your preWO coffee tomorrow. This kind of stuff always gets me pumped to train!