6-Mass

[bigflex0]

I talked to Eric and he told me they do still contain PH's and thus a proper PCT is advisable.

 

[Carrot]

Ok no worries have it all ready to go

 

[Carrot]

Day 15 today doin back n bi's tonight

 

[Carrot]

Day 16 today alpha make feeling comes and goes in the morning and afternoon, odd I thought kinda like a surge in testosterone then I snap out of it!! And laugh to myself. Tonight I benched my lifelong goal of 315 (140) so I am extremely pleased with this supplement for strength

 

[bigflex0]

I am glad you are getting results. For those of us in the US would you mind typing up the ingredients and dose as I cannot for the life of me find a label online.

 

[Carrot]

6-mass ingredients:
Purified water 60.51%, glycerol 16.81%, agmatine sulfate 16.81%, hydroxypropyl betacyclodextrin 5.04%, 6-ketone-pregna-4-ene-3,20-Dione 0.67%, preservatives (202,211) 0.05%, flavors ( fruit punch, bitter blocking) 0.03%, acidity regulator (330) 0.03%, stabilizer (385) 0.03%, sweetener (955) 0.02%.

 

[Carrot]

Dose: 3ml twice daily held under tongue for 60 seconds

 

[LG Sciences]

Glad you like it. We are getting great reviews for it.

 

[Carrot]

I really am liking this I've got 2 other people to buy it as well so it's getting out there in Australia, thanks for bringing it here

 

[rsnake21]

What kind of pct therapy would you use? Regular ole clomid or nolva?

 

[AEK]

Liquid formadrol or form x would suffice !

 

[Carrot]

I'm in australua so I don't know those supps, I can recommend beast super test and jump straight on creatine to keep your muscle gains

 

[AEK]

STICK WITH A BRAND THAT YOU KNOW WORKS

IT IS AVAILABLE AT HPS

http://hpsupplements.com.au/collections/anti-estrogens/products/lgscienceliquidformadrol

I'm in australua so I don't know those supps, I can recommend beast super test and jump straight on creatine to keep your muscle gains

 

[bigflex0]

Any updates? How are things going?

 

[AEK]

Yeah man what happening with your cycle !!

 

[bigflex0]

I just shot him a pm, hopefully he can give us a final update, I hope all is well with him.

 

[ozmal]

6-Mass in AusIngredients: purified water 60.51%, glycerol 16.81%, AGMATINE SULFATE 16.81%, HYDROXYPROPYL BETACYCLODEXTRIN 5.04%, 6-KETO-PREGNA-4-ENE-3, 20-DIONE 0.67%, PRESERVATIVES (202, 211) 0.05%, flavors (fruit punch, bitter blocking) 0.03%, sweetener (955) 0.02%

Im assuming the main ingredents are PREGNA-4-ENE-3, 20-DIONE & HYDROXYPROPYL BETACYCLODEXTRIN?

 

[AEK]

Your point is ????

 

[ozmal]

Your point is ????

Not making a point jsut making sure the panel I found online was correct!

 

[AEK]

Yes the ingredients are correct !!

 

[horizons]

Does anyone realise that the PREGNA-4-ENE-3, 20-DIONE is progesterone? Which is a female steroid...

 

[AEK]

Does anyone realise that the PREGNA-4-ENE-3, 20-DIONE is progesterone? Which is a female steroid...

YOU SHOULD DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON HORMONES BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH !

Read the below then come back and talk to me if you need more info then reply cause there more info out there !!

Well you could say progesterone makes men manly enough to get women pregnant. Most of the studies out there suggest progesterone in men has a similar effect to the male hormone testosterone. Like testosterone, progesterone enhances your libido, improves your mood, helps keep your weight down and increases muscle mass, gives you more energy, stronger bones, stronger erections and a whole host of other health benefits. Progesterone also increases levels of testosterone in your body and enhances its effects. At the same time, it reduces estrogen and antagonizes its effects.

It’s no wonder then that progesterone can play a big role in helping you lose those man boobs.

How Does Progesterone Help Get Rid Of Man Boobs?

The role of progesterone has been severely underestimated in men. Depending on the stage of a woman’s menstrual cycle, men can have just as much progesterone in their bodies as women. Most scientific studies have focused on the effects of progesterone on women, and its role in men has been neglected. It’s only recently that scientists have started to realize how important this hormone is in men.

When it comes to determining a man’s masculinity – body fat, muscle mass, libido, sperm count, erections, etc – the latest studies suggest progesterone is just as important as estrogen and testosterone. In fact, progesterone is a precursor to both of these hormones (meaning both estrogen and testosterone are produced from progesterone), so it plays a big role in deciding the levels of these hormones. Where guys with man boobs generally have high estrogen and/or low testosterone, progesterone works, in part, by lowering estrogen, and raising levels of testosterone.

Progesterone Acts With Testosterone

Progesterone has many of its own effects on the body. In men, the studies suggest that progesterone works a lot like testosterone, so much that it can even be considered a second male sex hormone. In a study, published in the book, The Hidden Structure of Interaction, researchers found that progesterone and testosterone levels rise and fall together in weekly and monthly cycles. Both testosterone and progesterone levels rise together in response to increased sexual activity in men.

Progesterone is also the most potent known inhibitor of the enzyme 5-alpha-reductase, which converts testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT). DHT is a known cause of male pattern balding, prostatic hyperplasia, and prostate cancer. By blocking 5-alpha-reductase, progesterone promotes higher levels of testosterone in your body.

Progesterone Antagonizes Estrogen

Not only does progesterone raise levels of and have similar actions to the male hormone testosterone, it also acts against estrogen, much like testosterone does. Progesterone antagonizes the estrogenic effect on your body via multiple different mechanisms. One such mechanism is via regulation of cell metabolism to promote the oxidative pathway. This prevents conversion of the much weaker form of estrogen, estrone, to a more potent form, known as estradiol.

We know for example, that like testosterone, progesterone reduces estrogen-driven cancers like prostate cancer in men, and breast and endometrial cancer in women.

As men age, both their levels of testosterone and progesterone decrease, while estrogen levels increase. When high estrogen levels are unopposed by testosterone and progesterone, it leads to a condition called estrogen dominance. Amid the myriad of different problems, symptoms and conditions caused by estrogen dominance, it is also the single most important cause of gynecomastia (man boobs).

Known Problems with Estrogen Dominance Known Benefits of Natural Progesterone Therapy
•Gynecomastia (man boobs)
•Excess, stubborn and hard to lose body fat, especially abdominal and chest fat
•Hair loss
•Male breast tenderness
•Cellular changes leading to cancer, including breast cancer in men
•Enlargement of the prostate
•Inflammation of the prostate
•Increased frequency of urination (waking up multiple times at night to go for a pee)
•Heart disease (makes you more prone to chest pains and heart attacks)
•Depression and fatigue
•Reduced sex-drive
•Erectile dysfunction
•Helps use fat for energy, making it easier to lose weight
•Increases muscle mass
•Protects against prostate and breast cancer (both are increasing in men)
•Increases sexual drive
•Corrects erectile dysfunction in much the way viagra does, by increasing production of nitric oxide
•Helps normalize blood sugar levels
•Normalizes thyroid hormone function
•Stimulates new bone formation
•Improves brain function, has antidepressant properties
•Improves skin problems including acne, seborrhea, rosacea, psoriasis
•Diminishes muscular aches and pains, has anti-inflammatory properties
•Improves sleep pattern


So do you see how progesterone can be a big player in man boob reduction? It’s important of course, for us to focus on the estrogen to testosterone ratio (E:T ratio), but perhaps we’d get better results if we focused on the E:T&P ratio (estrogen to testosterone & progesterone ratio).


Read more: http://chestsculpting.com/progesterone-for-men-the-missing-link-in-man-boob-reduction/#ixzz2uwZpxmso

 

[horizons]

Settle down lol
It's a first and foremost female steroid. That's a fact.

Sure it may be really good in males and all that stuff you have written sounds really good on paper but could you please post some research, studies or any proof of these bold claims?

I am definitely not saying this product is garbage but for me personally would never put mess around with progesterone.

 

[mavado]

Can I do a 8 week cycle? This is the first time ever I'm going to this type of stuff..all I ever known is pre-workouts and whey iso....but just can't put on size. Just wondering if a 8 week cycle is recommended or not. I workout 4 days a week and have a fairly active lifestyle(run on rest days) apart from being a nerd.

 

[AEK]

Settle down lol
It's a first and foremost female steroid. That's a fact.

Sure it may be really good in males and all that stuff you have written sounds really good on paper but could you please post some research, studies or any proof of these bold claims?

I am definitely not saying this product is garbage but for me personally would never put mess around with progesterone.

Just so you are aware
Progesterone is a precursor hormone that is found in abundance in both women and men. Testosterone is an androgen - a male sex hormone - although that is a bit of a misnomer, because women with working ovaries also produce it, just in smaller quantities than men do.

If you look at the Aussie Market at the moment its flooded with Tribulas formulas and the odd product like Beast Supertest that promise to put on size and deliver nothing

6-Mass is in a league of its own !!! Especially with the strict standards that are place at the moment
Furthermore 6-Mass will cause you to fail a drug test ask yourself why !!!

Progesterone for Men

Once again, I am not crazy. I know that most of you think of progesterone as an "evil" catabolic and fattening hormone. What many of you may not remember is that the extremely popular anabolic steroid nandrolone decanoate (aka Deca Durabolin or nortestosterone) is in fact classified as a progestin (hormone with progesterone-like activity)! In addition, many progestins given to women in birth control pills and other drugs such as norgestrel and norethidrone are classified as 19-nor-testosterone or 19 nor- progesterone derivatives. Eastern German female Olympic athletes were known to have taken large quantities of these nor-testosterone derivatives to build muscle with the notorious masculinizing side effects that was obvious to all Olympic observers. Modern Olympic testing can now distinguish the difference between nor-progesterone and nor-testosterone derivatives. Since birth control pills aren’t yet on the list of drugs banned from competition, these "women" were able to pass all drug testing without any worries. Of course, I don’t suggest you raid your girlfriends birth control pill case in order to make yourself "feel like Deca". Recent studies at UCLA (9) have shown that different types of birth control pills have different androgenic capacity and can change the Olympic doping standard of testosterone to epitestosterone ratio of six to one with an increase of that ratio.

Steroids. 2003 Aug;68(6):543-50. Related Articles, Links
Anti-glucocorticoid effects of progesterone in vivo on rat adipose tissue metabolism.
Pedersen SB, Kristensen K, Richelsen B.
Department of Endocrinology and Metabolism, Aarhus Amtssygehus, Aarhus University Hospital, DK-8000 Aarhus C., Denmark.

 

[james117]

how would DAA go while taking 6 mass? would an estro blocker be needed?

 

[AEK]

I would take it straight after the cycle 6-mass on its own will jack up test levels you will actually fail a drug test !

 

[dylanjones]

Need Advice

Guys,

Im in week 2 of my 6 mass cycle. As far as I knew I didnt need a post cycle therapy.

The product is great so far.... Should I "stack" it with anything else?? Whats this M1D stuff??

The only other supps I take is a whey protein blend.... 2-3 times a day.

Basically can someone with a bit of knowledge give me a brief summary of how I should be using this stuff (6 mass) from start to finish?

I have never done steroids but been lifting for about 7 years on and off. I used that BPi AHD stuff once but this 6 mass seems better.

Help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

 

[james117]

Just use the product as recommended and for pct jump onto LG formadrol or for a cheaper alternative use DAA for 2weeks. Next time you use 6mass you could stack it with LG OH-c21 or run the 6 mass to the end and then jump onto the OH-c21 and finish that out and again use one of the above pct. not much info on net about these products and more importantly the results they give so could you let us know about your size and strength results. Hope some of this was helpful mate.

 

[dylanjones]

Thanks mate,

What exactly is OH-c21? is that the same as LG 17 - Pro Andro? I cant find OH-c21 on the LG website.

I think I will finish this 6 mass cycle and then do the OH-c21 or 17 Pro-Andro cycle straight away.

this sounds stupid but are all these products test boosters or pro hormones?

Someone told me that i can just use tribulis as a PCT?

So far the product feels good.... the body feels pretty hard and not bloated like creatine. I'm 2.5 weeks into the bottle.

Thanks for the help.

 

[james117]

I'm not sure what the OH-21c American equivalent is. Won't find it on the LG web site because its only for the Australian market meaning its a test booster not a ph. Trib would work for pct but keep dose high at 1200-1800mg a day.

 

[dylanjones]

Cool, understood.

Thanks for your help.

 

[bert45]

would 6 mass and lg science epiandro stack well?

 

[Mako011]

Could you a add 6 mass to the battle hardener kit

 

[bert45]

I tried 6 mass last month I say yes its stacks well

 

[Mako011]

What results did you get from it

 

[Schwuppes]

Tried to find out more about the main ingredient 6-keto progesterome... to no avail.

There's a "review" of 6-mass on youtube.... it's quite funny really. For some reason the guy (supposedly a MD) says the main ingredient is 6-keto pregnenolone, although the label cleary lists 6-keto-pregne-4-ene-3,20-dione which is (6-keto) progesterone.

Anyway, he goes on to say what it does not do, and that nobody knows how it works, but that he gained 3 pounds whilst on a cycle running something else.

Brb, Ima go run 4 weeks of oxymetholone and drink 2 liters of mineral water a day and then attribute all my gains to the mineral water lol...

 

[bert45]

I gained about 5 on epiandro and 6mass. 6 mass is a mass gainer ph very mild minimal shutdown if any.

 

[LG Sciences]

It's not pregnenelone, it is a purely anabolic compound that isn't estrogenic nor progestational nor androgenic.

 

[Schwuppes]

yea sure... so was 6-keto diosgenin a few years ago.

 

[LG Sciences]

Well, I cant really comment on diosgenin simply because I have never used it. 6-mass is however shown in the literature to be anabolic without interaction with any major receptors. Great yser feedback to boot!

 

[Bluedev14]

So in actuality, what's a good PCT for this? I can tell you "2 weeks of DAA" is bull....anything in the US OTC that will work (well)?

 

[hvactech]

So in actuality, what's a good PCT for this? I can tell you "2 weeks of DAA" is bull....anything in the US OTC that will work (well)?

Our form-xt with daa would be sufficient

 

[james117]

I ran 1.5 bottles of this with no pct. no shut down or loss of gains or strength. Prehaps this would be good to use after a cycle of andro to help rebalance things. Just throwing ideas around.

 

[Toff]

what sort of pct with this?

 

[Mr Aesthetic]

Hey guys,

Any updates on 6-Mass? Apparently it has been discontinued and replaced with Mega Mass by Spartan Labs.
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this and if it actually works better than 6-Mass?

Cheers

 

[james117]

I'd like to know what's happening with it also. 6 mass never really got traction. Haven't heard of mega mass. It's probably under dosed like 90% of other legal PHs now

 

[Mr Aesthetic]

Yeah, I still have 2 bottles left of the original 6-Mass formula. They expire 7/16. I remember they brought out a new formula that said "New Hardcore Ingredients" on the front, but from what I heard, it didn't work as well as the original formula. I'd say there may have been something else in the product which wasn't listed on the label.

From what I've read, they are claiming that Mega Mass is over 50% stronger than 6-Mass and that it has 50mg of 6-Keto-Pregn-4-ene-3,20-dione per serve instead of the 30mg per serve which was in 6-Mass.

 

[skinnyboy10]

I personally would not run our PH's for less than 6 weeks for best results. 4 is ok but far from optimal. At the 4 week mark things are barely kicking in and it is a shame to cut it short. Personally I really like 8 weeks and will be experimenting with 12 weeks although I cannot recommend this of course and neither dose LG.

Hey there big flex

is this stuff still available in aus?

cheers

 

[Young JD]

17 hydoxy 6 mass would be a direct precurser to 6 oxo