Given the size of the pills it could still be between 1 and 2 grams if everything else than the Ibutamoren was saltI can't imagine it would be anywhere near significant enough of an amount to cause water retention...
Given the size of the pills it could still be between 1 and 2 grams if everything else than the Ibutamoren was saltI can't imagine it would be anywhere near significant enough of an amount to cause water retention...
I can't imagine they would put salt in there as the filler though? There are other much more common options.Given the size of the pills it could still be between 1 and 2 grams if everything else than the Ibutamoren was salt
They wouldn't have to, as Ibutamoren mesylate is a salt on its own (the mesylate part).I can't imagine they would put salt in there as the filler though? There are other much more common options.
Refer to below, lol. I didn't make the connection that you thought "salt" was equatable to sodium chloride...They wouldn't have to, as Ibutamoren mesylate is a salt on its own (the mesylate part).
Hence my question: how much of the product would be salt?
Ibutamoren mesylate is just the salt of Ibutamoren.
In chemistry, salt =/= table salt.
A mesylate is any salt or ester of methanesulfonic acid.
You would still be getting 10mg ibutamoren, no matter how much mesylate it's bonded to, I believe. xtyler likely knows better than I, though.They wouldn't have to, as Ibutamoren mesylate is a salt on its own (the mesylate part).
Hence my question: how much of the product would be salt?
I am not questioning the amount of Ibutamoren I'm getting.You would still be getting 10mg ibutamoren, no matter how much mesylate it's bonded to, I believe. xtyler likely knows better than I, though.
There's no sodium.I am not questioning the amount of Ibutamoren I'm getting.
I'm wondering how much salt I get with it as my kidney condition dictates I be cautious with sodium.
Again, mesylate is a salt, not table salt.I am not questioning the amount of Ibutamoren I'm getting.
I'm wondering how much salt I get with it as my kidney condition dictates I be cautious with sodium.
Wtf isthisreallife??
This is not androgenic so it won't elicit an acute strength or performance increase per se. It is a growth hormone secretagogue which increases your natural GH production. This in turn will lead to increased appetite, growth, and recovery. Those benefits will in turn lead to increased mass and strength with the right diet and training program.Did anyone notice any strength increases from it?
Was it minor,moderate or high level of strength increase?
Or is it just usefull for other things but not strength?
I would dose all pre-bed. 10mg is enough for me but try 10mg for 1-2 weeks and then try 20mg to see how it treats you.Any user experience on the best dosage for maximum sleep benefits?
- 10mg twice a day?
- 20mg at night?
- does make a difference as half life is long?
Did you have insomnia/poor sleep the first nights when dosing pre bed?I would dose all pre-bed. 10mg is enough for me but try 10mg for 1-2 weeks and then try 20mg to see how it treats you.
I didn't but if you experienced that, try dosing earlier in the day.Did you have insomnia/poor sleep the first nights when dosing pre bed?
We've had this come up before with ostarine. If you purchased from one of OUKs official retailers, youre all good.And also I've noticed that the pills were plain white contrary to some pictures I've seen from Ghar1ne on the net that were half green / half white.
Did I get scammed?
Did they change the color?
Pm the websiteGot my 3 bottles of Ghari1ne last week.
The bottles are almost identical to what is advertised only the plastic cap of the bottle has some grooves to it (it should be smooth) and the capsules are plain white instead of half green / half white.
I popped 25mg for 2 days and all I got was poor sleep, no noticeable hunger.
I bought them from a website that seems legit but which isn't listed as an official OL re-seller either on OL's site.
Could it be that I got counterfeits?
Well, the opposite happened here.Got my 3 bottles of Ghari1ne last week.
The bottles are almost identical to what is advertised only the plastic cap of the bottle has some grooves to it (it should be smooth) and the capsules are plain white instead of half green / half white.
I popped 25mg for 2 days and all I got was poor sleep, no noticeable hunger.
I bought them from a website that seems legit but which isn't listed as an official OL re-seller either on OL's site.
Could it be that I got counterfeits?
Pop some and tell us what you feelWell, the opposite happened here.
Last week i bought a second second bottle and the cap is smooth. The first one had some grooves.
Besides that, the exterior plastic cap seal protection is "clean" and on the first bottle it said "Sealed for your own protection". I´m not sure but i have the feeling when i opened the bottle, the inside seal wasn´t sticked to the bottle and was a little wrinkled. Caps are green/white but there are 98 instead of 90.
I bought it from a legit European re-seller.
Should i be concerned?
PM me the retailerWell, the opposite happened here.
Last week i bought a second second bottle and the cap is smooth. The first one had some grooves.
Besides that, the exterior plastic cap seal protection is "clean" and on the first bottle it said "Sealed for your own protection". I´m not sure but i have the feeling when i opened the bottle, the inside seal wasn´t sticked to the bottle and was a little wrinkled. Caps are green/white but there are 98 instead of 90.
I bought it from a legit European re-seller.
Should i be concerned?
Same here , I hope the green white capse are legit . I bought 2x ol gha1rine one was normal white capsules the other with white green.Got my 3 bottles of Ghari1ne last week.
The bottles are almost identical to what is advertised only the plastic cap of the bottle has some grooves to it (it should be smooth) and the capsules are plain white instead of half green / half white.
I popped 25mg for 2 days and all I got was poor sleep, no noticeable hunger.
I bought them from a website that seems legit but which isn't listed as an official OL re-seller either on OL's site.
Could it be that I got counterfeits?
How did you dose 25mg with 10mg caps?Got my 3 bottles of Ghari1ne last week.
The bottles are almost identical to what is advertised only the plastic cap of the bottle has some grooves to it (it should be smooth) and the capsules are plain white instead of half green / half white.
I popped 25mg for 2 days and all I got was poor sleep, no noticeable hunger.
I bought them from a website that seems legit but which isn't listed as an official OL re-seller either on OL's site.
Could it be that I got counterfeits?
Origin gets better with time so let good times rollFinishing my third bottle of Origin in about a week.
Started Ghar1ne 10 days ago @10mg still...
Since I added the Ghar1ne, sleeping has been even better and the pumps/vascularity have been amazing... like I was on Endurashre... and I'm only training half throttle due to some injuries...
I'm deciding if I go for the 4th bottle of Origin or if I go back to Follidrone 2 or ARA...
What do you guys think?
Orig1n + ArA sounds excellent.Finishing my third bottle of Origin in about a week.
Started Ghar1ne 10 days ago @10mg still...
Since I added the Ghar1ne, sleeping has been even better and the pumps/vascularity have been amazing... like I was on Endurashred... and I'm only training half throttle due to some injuries...
I'm deciding if I go for the 4th bottle of Origin or if I go back to Follidrone 2 or ARA...
What do you guys think?
Seconded...that would be a sick stack.Orig1n + ArA sounds excellent.
It varies so no set timeFor how long are the hands tingeling in the morning? Thx for the info!
Only available at Eu retailers.where can we find this product still?
I've used on empty and full stomach without noticing a difference in effects. Dosing on empty stomach, however can possibly lead to increased appetite and overeating due to increased Ghrelin secretion. Some people prefer to dose it at night due to feeling sleepy and lethargic if dosing during the day. I never experienced that but still preferred pre-bed dosing usually. Split dosing is up to your preference due to the long-half-life, but splitting the doses sometimes help for the appetite and lethargy/sleepiness symptoms.Hi, iam curious about the dosing protocol..
Just got my first tub and i am very excited, for the gains but also the sleep because i hae a problem with that...
The bottle says 1 cap with food 2 times a day but i see most people dose it Before bed.
So wich is best?
Also,do you need to take it with food?
Regardless of dosage and timing it ****s up with my sleep, for days, without improvement.Hi, iam curious about the dosing protocol..
Just got my first tub and i am very excited, for the gains but also the sleep because i hae a problem with that...
The bottle says 1 cap with food 2 times a day but i see most people dose it Before bed.
So wich is best?
Also,do you need to take it with food?
I do pre bed and have great sleep. Like jebrook said, since half-life is long so feel out what works for you. TBH I don't go to 20mg as I am too groggy first part of the morning. 10mg with huperzine and I am set.Hi, iam curious about the dosing protocol..
Just got my first tub and i am very excited, for the gains but also the sleep because i hae a problem with that...
The bottle says 1 cap with food 2 times a day but i see most people dose it Before bed.
So wich is best?
Also,do you need to take it with food?
Tingly hands don't occur for every single user. I didn't experience it once at any dosage. I'd would say give it another week at this dose before increasing it. Hup A and green tea extract are dirt cheap and work well with MK. The caps were originally always white and green. I believe there was a run with white caps due to a shortage. Check our website for approved retailers link. If you purchased from one of them then your gonna be gtg.Ok thank you all for your answers..
I have Done 10mg with melatonin and zma now for 4 nights but have not felt anything.. no improved sleep nor tingly hands.. do you think that i should up it to 20mg or is it to early.?
Looking in to huperzine or is there a stronger somatastin inhibitior availeble.. also, should the caps be white or white/green?
Thank you/ burro
MK677 has too high of a molecular weight to be absorbed transdermally. And even if it could, considering its mechanism of action, it wouldn't have site specific healing properties.
On another note, my Uncle, Aunt and Mother have all started Ghar1ne at 10mg per night, and none have noticed lethargy, numbness, or increased hunger. I find this interesting. They all suffer from a diverse range of issues, injuries, so on. I have really high hopes that Ghar1ne can help them at least experience less day to day pain.
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