Best PCT for Prohormone Stack? Im bout to start a cycle on Swiss Megadrol

[MortalWeight]

One pill contains:

Trenavar	30mg
Epistan	20mg
1-Andro	50mg

I know my liver will hate me that's why I got also Tudac.
I was thinking about using Brawn PCT Complete V2 which contains:

KSM-66® Full Spectrum Ashwagandha root extract (5% Withanolides)	600mg
Phospatidyl Serine	500mg
Rhodiola Rosea Extract (root) (Standardized to min. 3% Salidrosides)	300mg
Bacopa Monnieri (Standardized to 50% Bacosides)	300 mg
3,3'-Diindolydopamine (DIM)	200mg
N-Coumaroyldopamine	50 mg
Bioperine®	10mg

I am also assuming I need some SRMS but I am not quit sure, looking for feedback thank you

 

[kira1357]

SERM absolutely required for this. The other stuff is fine but not real PCT. Get some nolva or enclo.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I don't think your liver is going to fall out or anything...

 

[kira1357]

I don't think your liver is going to fall out or anything...

This^^ Livers are much more resilient to cycle effects than lipids and blood pressure, for most cycles it's more important to have ancillaries for those.

 

[Renew1]

One pill contains:

Trenavar	30mg
Epistan	20mg
1-Andro	50mg

I know my liver will hate me that's why I got also Tudac.
I was thinking about using Brawn PCT Complete V2 which contains:

KSM-66® Full Spectrum Ashwagandha root extract (5% Withanolides)	600mg
Phospatidyl Serine	500mg
Rhodiola Rosea Extract (root) (Standardized to min. 3% Salidrosides)	300mg
Bacopa Monnieri (Standardized to 50% Bacosides)	300 mg
3,3'-Diindolydopamine (DIM)	200mg
N-Coumaroyldopamine	50 mg
Bioperine®	10mg

I am also assuming I need some SRMS but I am not quit sure, looking for feedback thank you

Yeah, if you run that ... You'll need a SERM.
Two of those are strong steroids.

 

[MortalWeight]

Alright thank you guys I think I‘m going to use Clomid for the pct. Do you have any dosage tips for the Clomid?

 

[EpiStrong]

Alright thank you guys I think I‘m going to use Clomid for the pct. Do you have any dosage tips for the Clomid?

Please look into this, dosage, duration, legit suppliers, etc and have your pct on hand before the cycle. This is how people screw themselves up more than needed.

 

[EpiStrong]

Alright thank you guys I think I‘m going to use Clomid for the pct. Do you have any dosage tips for the Clomid?

Comid is 50mg tapered to 25 old school. Or 25 tapered to 12.5 newer school. Trenavar is a harsh steroid, epistane is too but I handle it well so I'm impartial. Be safe, do your research.

 

[Rad83]

OP no offense, but sounds like you need to pick 1 compound and see how that goes.
Not 3….although I can’t really count that 1 andro at that dose…

 

[Smont]

That stack is garbage, look at the dosing. Dont flush your money down the toilet on garbage

 

[Smont]

Epistane and trenavar are steroids, 1ad is a ph

Nothing over the couneter is going to work for
pct for what you have.

The best pct is hcg and a serm

The seccond best pct is a serm + a solid test booster

The worst pct is anything That has the letters PCT on the label

 

[MortalWeight]

Thanks for the replies, I'm sticking with Clomid as a serm. Although I would like to mix Clomid with Nolva (first week taking Clomid and then procceding with Nolva) but I can't get my hands on Nolva unfortunatly so what would be the best dosage?
Im thinking about 100mg for the first week and then taper down to 25mg und using 25mg for the next 3-4 weeks

The seccond best pct is a serm + a solid test booster

Do you have any good test booster recommendations?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Thanks for the replies, I'm sticking with Clomid as a serm. Although I would like to mix Clomid with Nolva (first week taking Clomid and then procceding with Nolva) but I can't get my hands on Nolva unfortunatly so what would be the best dosage?
Im thinking about 100mg for the first week and then taper down to 25mg und using 25mg for the next 3-4 weeks


Do you have any good test booster recommendations?

Comid is 50mg tapered to 25 old school. Or 25 tapered to 12.5 newer school.

Apex Arimahex.

 

[LeanEngineer]

Thanks for the replies, I'm sticking with Clomid as a serm. Although I would like to mix Clomid with Nolva (first week taking Clomid and then procceding with Nolva) but I can't get my hands on Nolva unfortunatly so what would be the best dosage?
Im thinking about 100mg for the first week and then taper down to 25mg und using 25mg for the next 3-4 weeks


Do you have any good test booster recommendations?

Optimize-T by SNS or M-Test by CEL would be my recommendations

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[Joshlm69]

I second Optimize-T or M-Test, just about to finish a 12 week run on them & have had very promising results, didn't think I'd be able recomp this much from a natural supplement stack at 35, pleasantly surprised

 

[Stacks1]

Thanks for the replies, I'm sticking with Clomid as a serm. Although I would like to mix Clomid with Nolva (first week taking Clomid and then procceding with Nolva) but I can't get my hands on Nolva unfortunatly so what would be the best dosage?
Im thinking about 100mg for the first week and then taper down to 25mg und using 25mg for the next 3-4 weeks


Do you have any good test booster recommendations?

100mgs is way high. I know some people start as high as 150mgs but I'll never understand why. I've personally had a lot of success with clomid @ 25/25/12.5/12.5. I don't think there is ever a need to go over 50mgs.

 

[Smont]

Comid is 50mg tapered to 25 old school. Or 25 tapered to 12.5 newer school. Trenavar is a harsh steroid, epistane is too but I handle it well so I'm impartial. Be safe, do your research.

Tapering down doses of most steroids or serms is kinda pointless, they taper theyselves down. If someone is taking clomid and just stops, theres a 4-7 day half life And it takes 5 half lives to clear out. So over the course of 20-35 days After your last dose the drug will just slowly taper itself out.

 

[EpiStrong]

Tapering down doses of most steroids or serms is kinda pointless, they taper theyselves down. If someone is taking clomid and just stops, theres a 4-7 day half life And it takes 5 half lives to clear out. So over the course of 20-35 days After your last dose the drug will just slowly taper itself out.

True but at a higher dose the half life is longer. Less is more in some situations but this is just standard bro science regimes I didn't make them but have followed them with success.. I wouldn't taper anabolics unless I was slowly going UP to access sides... kinda why I do not like kick starts to cycles

Edit. Maybe longer wasn't the correct word. 50 to 25 to 12.5 is more in the body vs 25 to 12.5 to 6.25 in the same amount of time. The elimination rate is obviously higher with a lower dose... not even accounting for the build up higher than the daily dose if it has a couple day plus half life

 

[Smont]

True but at a higher dose the half life is longer. Less is more in some situations but this is just standard bro science regimes I didn't make them but have followed them with success.. I wouldn't taper anabolics unless I was slowly going UP to access sides... kinda why I do not like kick starts to cycles

Edit. Maybe longer wasn't the correct word. 50 to 25 to 12.5 is more in the body vs 25 to 12.5 to 6.25 in the same amount of time. The elimination rate is obviously higher with a lower dose... not even accounting for the build up higher than the daily dose if it has a couple day plus half life

No1 said anything about tapering UP doses.

Were talking about tapering Down doses of serms and anabolics when your coming off which is pointless.

You're overanalyzing the crap out of something that needs no extra thinking

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

looking at OP display pic .. looks like the cycle was a success.

 

[EpiStrong]

You're overanalyzing the crap out of something that needs no extra thinking

I've just always seen serms as a half dose halfway through cycle. I didn't make it up is usually in every non trt cycle though. So you would just run serms the same dose the entire pct?

 

[Stacks1]

looking at OP display pic .. looks like the cycle was a success.

That's just GH gut bro.

 

[Smont]

I've just always seen serms as a half dose halfway through cycle. I didn't make it up is usually in every non trt cycle though. So you would just run serms the same dose the entire pct?

Yep, there really is no benifit to tapering off. Now if your on Something like clomid and its giving sides, of course lower the dose. But no other reason to.

Im not a fan of serms as a alternitive to trt but they use clomid @25mg a day for extended periods, months at a time, or even much longer and still dont taper off when / if they stop.

If you want to taper down you can, it wont hurt you. Theres just no benifit. Actually there is a little less benifit because 25,25,25,25 is going to do raise your testosterone more/faster then 25,25,12.5,12.5 and so on simply because tapering means less drug those last few weeks.

So im not trying to say "hey your wrong" im just saying its not a necessary thing to do. Theres no upside unless your getting side effects

 

[Stacks1]

I've just always seen serms as a half dose halfway through cycle. I didn't make it up is usually in every non trt cycle though. So you would just run serms the same dose the entire pct?

I think the thought process with something like clomid used to be that people would dose it very high right out of the gate to stimulate test production and then taper down to a more normal dose. I always felt it was dosed too high. Some people would start with 100 or 150mgs for the first week or so and then taper down. I've always felt that 25mgs ED or 50mgs EOD sufficed.

I don't know if that's necessarily the right or wrong way to do it... it's just what a lot of people did. They thought they should start with a really high dose and then taper down. So, if you're starting as high as 100 or 150mgs, then mostly likely you are going to taper down because who the hell is going to run it that high for a month? But if you're running it at 25mgs, then you might just run it straight through at that dose.

But like you said, this was mostly just broscience. I don't think anyone needs to run doses that high right out of the gate to stimulate production.