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Yeah Primo should treat you good, 600/400 should be a good dose to start, just keep in mind that HCG can raise Estrogen so you might have to bump the Primo higher to not get E sides. I think 50mg Tbol is a good start, I will start that dose next week. Btw why are you using the HCG? If it’s...

Also, clinics are more into making money so they benefit more to give (sell) the patient what he wants.

^This^

Really? Maybe a little higher Test is better but not sure about 2:1… That would mean 800 Test with 400 Primo or 1200 Test with 600 Primo.

I like 10mg pre workout. Low dose gets me the strength/pump/mood I like and I can still stay lean. I don’t think I ever went over 10mg and I never did a really Dbol cycle (ed for weeks) so I never had any sides from Dbol, to me it’s a great drug.

I’m late to the party but I do 400/400 Test/Primo and pulse the Dbol 3x a week. I would run that cycle forever but unfortunately you need a break here and there… or so they say 🤷🏻‍♂️

That was a good one, what happened to it?

Haha, yes, exactly that! I want something that if you take it and then decide to go for a jog you will pass out mid jog and sleep 8 restful hours, probably waking up confused since you’re waking up in some weird place but refreshed enough to continue your jog… 😂 To be honest guys, it’s my stim...

This is a very well thought out first post, love it, what’s your spirit animal and zodiac sign? I hear it depends on those what your results will be on actual roids.

Idk, doesn’t feel weird to have that machine on your face? I’m rolling around a bit when I’m sleeping but with the machine you have to be flat on your back right? It crossed my mind a few times but idk if it’s for me.

This could potentially be something since most of my evening workouts are cardio based so I would assume cortisol would be high. Thanks

Yes, it’s not always so easy, especially if you work during the day and have to workout late. It’s definitely easier to sleep without afternoon stims but that’s easier said than done through.

I think I used all of those you recommended, wasn’t really impressed with either, but it was a little while ago so idk if the formula have changed.

I don’t know if they have changed but I did try them when they came out and I got nothing really from them… :(

I just used ZMA+Melatonin lately but feel I need to switch it up since it doesn’t “put me to sleep” like it used to do. Actually, I’m looking for something so strong that if I take it I immediately will fall down and sleep for 8 hrs no matter what I’m doing… and preferably waking up 8 hrs later...

Could be solvent, it depends who brews it, or it could be a mistake made with that batch (unfortunately have happened to me) or it could be something else. Best to stick with labs that have a good reputation over a long time or use a lab you’re familiar with.

You get info on pretty much everything on https://www.steroid.com/. I can’t stand most of the nerds on YouTube so I much rather read.

I agree it’s good to see how different drugs is effecting you on cycle (especially if you get sides) although I don’t think it’s a must do bloods on cycle. I have done bloods in the end of an Anavar cycle because I wanted to see how it affected me and (just like you said) all my markers was...

Like I said, bloods is expected to be out of range on cycle. It’s really no reason to check bloods on cycle unless you got sides you can’t control.

What is the logic and what makes it “most convincing”?