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Just started vector again. I forgot about the acute effects. Strength increase within days.

I love epicatechin. And some study telling me it doesn't work isn't going to convince me. 3 plus years of use vs some study. The map is not always the territory.

Follidrone and epilogue were both great but I like the apex alchemy transdermal more.

I'm using this too. I have noticed already that this transdermal has more of a leaning effect than any epicatechin I have ever used.

Is the bogo for all products or just Ursa Major?

I am actually using epichaos now also and yes it definitely opens your lungs up after application. In general though epicatechin whenever I use it definitely opens my breathing up more. So it may be a little bit of both(the terpenes and the epicatechin). I have been doing about 20 sprays a day...

Do you massage the product on to the skin or just spray and allow it to absorb in?

I have apex alchemy on deck after I finish my bottle of follidrone. I always loved the Olympus labs transdermal epicatechin. So I can't wait to give this one a spin. For oral epilogue and follidrone are the best. Epiplex is good to if you just want epicatechin.

Sounds great. I am going to give this and epoch a shot.

I am going to give epoch a shot. I have been looking for a transdermal epicatechin ever since epic unleashed was discontinued. Can't wait to try it.

I wasn't arguing anything just my own personal experience. Been using epicatechin for several years straight. I know what it does for me. Yet now that I read your comment, the "light" has gone off for me, how could I have not seen it. I will never use epicatechin again. Thank you so much.

I tried it both ways. Loved vector on a surplus. I felt the compounds were not being "leveraged" properly on a deficit.

It works fantastic for me and has been a staple for awhile. Sometimes studies say one thing and personal experience is completely different. The map is not always the territory. Are you gonna live your life according to what someone else says or experience it for yourself? There is only...

I take magnesium glycinate. Great for sleep. Good synergy between the two.

I don't know how people lift on keto. I have tried it a couple times and my strength goes down big time. I need carbs or I'm worthless. I guess we're all different though.

Vitamin d3 transdermal creams work great also.

Me too. Even the first wave without absorption enhancement hit me hard. It's basically been a staple for me for years, and has made a huge difference in my training capacity. It's weird though because there are non responders out there. But if it you respond well to it, trust me you will...

Anybody tried epoch? I've been looking for a transdermal epicatechin ever since epic unleashed was discontinued. I just want some feedback before I try epoch.

Sensoril works better for me than ksm66

Anyone tried this? Been looking for a transdermal epicatechin ever since epic unleashed was discontinued.